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Consumables Quality Discount
Posted by: Andrew B (IP Logged)
Date: October 31, 2019 12:24PM

I know this has been provided verbally several times, but I just wanted to get an official written clarify on the books somewhere.

Can rules staff confirm: In order to use consumables to discount AMP/device(*) creation, you need to use all 5 servings of the consumable for that purpose.

*Something is telling me you can't use consumables to discount devices? Maybe that's just because aesthetically, it doesn't make as much sense?

Re: Consumables Quality Discount
Posted by: Josh M (IP Logged)
Date: October 31, 2019 09:51PM

That...

That actually solves a lot of problems.

Sometimes the simple solution is right under you nose and you can’t see it. Thank you for the suggestion!


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Re: Consumables Quality Discount
Posted by: Brandon W (IP Logged)
Date: November 1, 2019 12:28AM

So a Lux Consumable will take 3 common equivalents off of an amp for the low low cost of . . . 6 common equivalents?

Re: Consumables Quality Discount
Posted by: Stu A (IP Logged)
Date: November 1, 2019 09:16AM

Yup noone is going to bother with that unless looking to move old stock that wont sell.

Re: Consumables Quality Discount
Posted by: David R (IP Logged)
Date: November 1, 2019 10:44AM

The ratios are the same for tech and trinkets.

Re: Consumables Quality Discount
Posted by: Matt A (IP Logged)
Date: November 1, 2019 11:16AM

not really
lvl 1 Procedure Example

Type | Procedure Cost | Syth Cost | Total Cost | Output
Consumable : 1CE + 1CE = 2CE Cost 5 Servings Output
Tech: 1CE + 1CE = 2CE Cost 1 Tech Output
Trinket: 1CE + 1CE = 2CE Cost 1 Trinket Output


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Re: Consumables Quality Discount
Posted by: David R (IP Logged)
Date: November 1, 2019 11:30AM

Matt, for the purposes of discounting amps/devices if you have to use the full procedure use, it is. The ratio is always 2CE per 1 CE discount.

Re: Consumables Quality Discount
Posted by: Stu A (IP Logged)
Date: November 1, 2019 11:56AM

Unlikely that will ever get used then
There may be a few edge cases

Re: Consumables Quality Discount
Posted by: David R (IP Logged)
Date: November 1, 2019 12:21PM

Cindy can make consumables entirely out of genius due to the professional chef perk. If she's using that, anyone working with her can make a number of amps only limited by the speed at which her genius can be restored, assuming the amp formula costs equal to or less than the amount discounted by the consumable. Seems very powerful.

Re: Consumables Quality Discount
Posted by: Stu A (IP Logged)
Date: November 1, 2019 01:03PM

Yes the only people who will make trinket or consumable based products will be people that have specialized in it. otherwise noone else will do it. It was supposed to encourage old style alcohol consumable with effects to be made commonly, and this wont have that result.

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